I keep hearing about family values, welfare, entitled people that are too lazy to work so they live this high life off the government and abuse everyone’s hard earned tax dollars. This is also being sized up in the current political atmosphere to state that if you are one of these Americans that you are less than everyone else and should not have the freedoms afforded to all of us hard working Americans. Politician’s rant and base their entire platform on the sacred American family and how they are so pro-family. Really?! Is that truly the case? Are they really pro-family? Are we as a country showing the rest of the world that we are pro-family?
What is so pro-family about the fact that elderly and disabled men and women in this country have to choose between living together and getting married? Does anyone that has the public’s ear really know anything about what it is like to be poor, disadvantaged, disabled, uneducated, sick, mentally ill or afraid you will become sick, poor or vulnerable person in America? Do we want to be a country that wants to be known as saving the injured, sick masses in other countries but curse the same kind of people in our own country? If something doesn’t happen soon we will have to start asking the 3rd world countries to offer us assistance for our poor and disenfranchised population because our own self-righteous government will not do it for them.
As long as Politician’s can scare people with words like socialism, welfare state, and abortion (because we all know that the only reason a woman would want health care is to get an abortion…), that is what it comes down to – rhetoric and scare tactics. It makes me ashamed.
I have worked with my family in Christian ministry since I was a little child. As an adult I have dedicated my career to the cause of the disenfranchised, vulnerable populations In my local county, I see with my own eyes daily the poverty, and destitution of mental illness, the plight of our children, and the helplessness of elderly. Through the years the ability I have to offer services to these people has been seriously impaired. I know that if the current trend continues we will have to face another social issue. ..the cost of burying the sick, forgotten mentally ill clients left to rot on our streets because there is no place for them to go and no one to guide them through the bureaucratic paperwork to receive assistance, such as it is.
I would like to see someone go out and try to get all the services that the Right Wing says we are providing for people. In my state there is no welfare. Single parents can receive some money for their children (if they don’t get child support) food stamps and health insurance. That’s it. If you are a childless adult, forget it. The GOP are talking about things they have no true idea of. When was the last time they tried to make it on $585 a month? By the way, this is the going rate for social security disability if you haven’t worked enough hours to qualify for regular disability.
Most people are afraid of getting work because they take away part of your check as you earn money. So we basically say “if you don’t work you are lazy,” but if they try to work and make too much (on part time jobs that offer no benefits) then they lose their Medicaid insurance and part of their SSI check, making it impossible to even live (especially as many have disabilities and cannot survive without their Medicaid). Talk about blaming the victim! I agree we need reform, but not in the way most people mean.
We need to drop some of these restrictions so people will have a fair chance of really getting ahead. I’m sick of white, self-serving, fiscal conservatives that say they are “Christian” telling us how the poor man feels and how they are trying to live the high life on the government. You don’t know what you are talking about. Would you want to walk in my shoes for a few days? You could then see, if you’re not to blinded, the true situation.
I started this by talking about family values. I thought a family value was to care for a family member when they are sick, alone, hungry…what happened to that? I also mentioned that if we are so big on a marriage between “a man and a woman” then why do we punish people receiving SSI for getting married? That’s right, if you get married they cut your huge allotment of $685 per person because you get married.
Why not have some real Christian values – compassion, empathy, a tender heart, love, longsuffering, patience, gentleness, meekness? The national and local candidates that emphasizes these Christian and family values will have my vote.
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Interesting thoughts. I understand your frustration with many of the politicians of today (both parties) using the family as a topic for a stump speech, however, I believe your anger toward “conservatives” as some sort of source of the problem is misplaced.
I understand the needs of the poor, the needy, the elderly, the sick, etc. are great, BUT (and you knew there was a ‘but’ coming) I don’t believe that it is the responsibility of the government to take care of these people. It’s OUR job (the church).
It is only because the church has failed to do as Jesus taught regarding caring for the poor, the sick, etc. that people have become dependant on the governement for various services and needs. And some christians have begun to let the government do there job for them (thinking their taxes are some sort of alms cleansing them of responsibility).
Your righteous anger is understandable, but we (the church) need to look at ourselves first (insert ‘log in eye’ analogy here). Are we serving? Are we tithing? Are we doing everything CHrist has called us to be?
If we were, I think we would find a lot less need for the government’s assistance.
Well said Jim! You hit the nail on the head in dissecting the REAL problem!
Government is responsible for the poor and evey single person in this country.
Read Ezekiel 16:49-50
Where in the bible does it say that the church should collect taxes, provide healthcare and manage roads? You’re not going to find it in there! It is the governments job to collect taxes and manage those things, not the church’s. It is our job as Christians to spread the gospel and help our fellow man but NOT to manage their health care plan. If that’s the case, I have a grandmother who needs taken care of. Would you quit your job to take of her? Because I can’t afford to. It’s nice to have such caring church members that would pay for my grandmother’s medical bills and even sacrifice their own lives to care for her. Thank you so much! 🙂
In the early church, the believer’s took care of each other. It was NOT the government’s “job!”
There were tax collectors in Jesus’ day. And, seriously, since you believe that, you now get to take care of my ailing grandmother and pay for my medical bills. Thanks in advance!
My mother had breast and lung cancer along with heart disease, I look at her medical bill after she have passed, it was over $300,000.00… Do you think the churches are in position for take care of thousand of people in her condition? Thank God for medicare, everythink were paid in full.
Actually, the question is ‘where is the Constitution does it say the government is supposed provide healthcare and nice roads to drive on?’
And yes, I know of many situations, even today, where people have needed to quit there jobs to care for a loved one. And yes, the church is supposed to step in and help in those situations too (insert ‘love thy neighbor’ and ‘do unto others’ sermon here). And no, I wouldn’t quit my job to care for your mother, but I would provide meals, food, or service to you and your mother as you cared for her. God is the provider. I’ve seen him provide in miraculous ways. Not to mention the power of prayer….which by the way, Eva, I am praying for you and your mom.
We need more time on our knees church!
Where does it say it shouldn’t?
Just a thought.
Actually it states the limitations of government in a number of areas. My point is that the church (we) are supposed to be helping each other. We shouldn’t be looking to the government to bail us out…we should be looking to Christ and his body. Just a thought.
Well said Eva. Couldn’t agree more!
If the any political party is going to claim to represent Christian values, then they should represent the Christian church. Which means that the party should have a desire to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick and visit the prisoner. Jesus fed 5,000 not including women and children because he had compassion on them. He never once asked for proof that they were hungry. He healed 10 lepers and only one came back to say thanks. People in the early church would sell all of their possessions to make sure that no one was without. Where is this particular attitude in the conservative party? We need to become more concerned with meeting the need and less with the bottom line. Quite honestly, I think that everyone should be entitled to health care, food, shelter and money to get those things when they don’t have them.
Right on Ang! Where is that attitude in the CHURCH…or ANYWHERE, for that matter?
I agree with a lot of what you have to say here. The fact of the matter is, any candidate who claims to be a “Christian,” would agree with the fact that we need to take care of the poor, the needy, the hungry, the naked, the stranger, etc. The “Christian” candidate would absolutely, positively need to be in total alignment with God’s HEART & VALUES…and THAT’S where we have the “rub.” The Republican party is viewed as only representing the rich under Romney (in this case), while the Democrat party is viewed as helping the poor–so much so, that it benefits them MORE to let the government help them, then empowering them to help themselves.
Even WORSE though, is the fact that the Democratic party does not value the life of the unborn–that which God Himself has chosen to GIVE LIFE. I don’t care what label you apply to it, or HOW you try to soften it–it is STILL the killing of an INNOCENT child! If you’re a “Christian,” you can try to “justify” & “rationalize” all you like, but there’s no getting around the truth! They call it “Pro-Choice”…it’s much more palatable, but God calls it MURDER! Since WHEN does a person get to decide (i.e. the “choice”) whether ANOTHER human being gets to live or not?
Sadly, during his time in the Illinois Senate, Obama voted AGAINST the Born Alive Act, a bill that requires doctors to give care to babies who SURVIVE abortions.
Newly discovered documents from the Illinois state archives prove Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has LIED about his opposition as an Illinois state senator to legislation requiring health officials to provide care to babies who survived abortion.
Obama has repeatedly claimed he would have voted for Illinois’ version of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act (BAIPA) had it included language to protect abortion rights guaranteed by Roe v. Wade, as the federal version of the bill did, which sailed through the U.S. Senate 98-0. Contrary to what Obama has said, forgotten records from the Illinois Senate archives show Obama did vote AGAINST a BAIPA bill that included such a neutrality clause virtually identical to the federal bill. I compared the two word for word.
Muskett’s “smoking gun” is a 2003 Health and Human Services Committee report recorded by Republican committee staff. It documents a unanimous 10-0 vote by the 2003 Illinois Senate Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired at the time, to amend BAIPA to include the exact same language that was added to the federal version to protect Roe v. Wade. The committee report also shows a subsequent “final action” vote to determine if the bill should advance out of committee or be killed. The bill was defeated 6-4. Chairman Obama voted in the majority.
This means that, in essence, Obama voted to successfully amend the bill in a way that he has said would have enabled him to support it—THEN voted AGAINST it. It also puts Obama further to the left of NARAL Pro-Choice America. According to a statement released by the abortion-rights lobby in the run-up to the U.S. Senate’s BAIPA vote in 2002, “NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act … floor debate served to clarify the bill’s intent and assure us that it is not targeted at Roe v. Wade or a woman’s right to choose.”
That brings us to the whole “Gay Marriage” issue–ANOTHER topic that God has NOT left anyone “in the dark” about, concerning HIS “position.” I believe that Romans 1.24-32 pretty much sums it up. I find it quite interesting that God places those who “give hearty approval to those who practice such things”–and those who actually DO those things, as being in the SAME BOAT! I do NOT feel it is therefore too far reaching to say that if one VOTES for a person who holds those “VALUES & BELIEFS,” as someone who is “giving hearty approval” of them as well. Even WORSE is that the Democratic party has NOW added this issue onto their PLATFORM, thereby defining this as the “Democratic” position.
The 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, signed under President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, defining marriage as between one man and one woman, excluding same-sex couples from more than 1,000 federal rights and protections. As a candidate, Obama wrote that he supported the full repeal of the law in an open letter to the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transexual, or LGBT, community.
Bishop E.W Jackson in his EXODUS message, hit the nail on the head, when he said that “God has ALREADY DEFINED what “MARRIAGE” is, and it has been well known for thousands of years, so it matters little how some would try to “REDEFINE” it! (cf. http://youtu.be/7_FrySY8oYM).
I guess the REAL “choice” here Obama…or God!
Pastor 1, I do not want to address all the issues that you presented, but I did want to touch on the issue of abortion.
The fact is that abortion has been allowed for so long that by making it illegal in a society where it has been “ok” would only create a black market for the services. Think Prohibition and the formation of the mob when liquor was made illegal.
I don’t think that anyone is cheering the number of abortions through the roof. Proverbs says that where there is no vision or knowledge the people perish. The issue of abortion is a perfect case where that is true. The ease that a woman can have an abortion is scary. You just need a positive pregnancy test, an appointment and the money to pay for it. I believe that if we educate women on the full physical and psychological effects of having an abortion before they can even schedule an appointment, it will decrease the number of abortions. The women will be provided with knowledge and be able to make a better choice. By legalizing abortion, the government could ensure that women are being educated about not only themselves, but the life that is in them. Women could also be educated about what other options they have. Such as adoptions and parenting classes.
I think a lot of people have an image of a well dressed woman walking into an abortion clinic and flushing her baby away. What about the scared teen mother? Or the woman in an abusive relationship? Or the woman who was raped and doesn’t want anyone to know? How much more could they benefit from having some counseling offered to them? The counseling could be paid by insurance while the abortion itself out of pocket. I think that if we show women we care about where they are at and what they are going through, and offer them educated choices, the amount of abortions (legal or illegal) will go down. Abortion is just the symptom of a larger problem. If abortions are just the symptom, then what is the disease? is it low self esteem? Lack of God? A feeling of hopelessness? And how do we meet THAT need?
One of my favorite accounts in the bible is when Jesus heals the woman who had an issue of blood. He didn’t just heal her physically, he met every need. Her loneliness, her worry, her lack of friends (remember where bleeding women went), he gave her a feeling of belonging, he gave her a future. This is what we need to do with women who are considering abortion. We must meet the need. How can we do that if we just keep wiping away the symptoms?
Republican and Democratic are pro-choice… They try to label President Obama as the most pro-abortion we ever had, which is far from truth… Before President Obama took office, he promise to rebuce abortion. He set up a group of faith leaders to work on reducing abortion through education and contraception. Obama made contraception free and available to all women, unwanted pregnancy have decreased about 65% and also abortion.
The media are not talking about this…. women are having less abortion under Obama
I just want to clarify, I am not pro choice because I think that women should be allowed to kill unborn life. I am pro choice because I think we need to fix the root of the problem and not just take the easy way out. If we vote against it, I feel that we are basically saying that we have done our Christian duty and whatever they do now, our hands are clean. I believe what the bible says. I believe that where there is no vision people die. How do we bring vision and knowledge to someone in this instance? This is our opportunity to share the values that God holds on unborn life and gives the Christian a chance to show God’s compassion to someone who might not otherwise receive it. We could save a childs life. Instead of sending the mother to google how to give her self an abortion, we can make a difference.
I have been a SERIOUs Christian my ENTIRE life …. I was also raised REpublican, BUT my ENTIRE Family has switched Parties due to the apparently cruel stance that the GOP has taken and I, as a Devout Christian, CANNOT sit by and listen to people BLASPHEME The Lord by insulting the Poor and Needy and EXCUSING Greed. The Bible was NOT based on only TWO Principals (homosexuality and abortion) but one ONE MAJOR Principal LOVE:
“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it. Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. ***On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”*** [Matt22:37-40]
***13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.***
****14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. *****
15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
The Bible EXPLICITLY States that Judgement and/or Vengeance is for Him alone (therefore we are to Love, NOT Judge, one another)
JAMES 4:12 One is he who lays down The Written Law and judgment, who is able to give life and to destroy. Who are you who are judging your neighbor?
VERY well said Ang and Amy! Thank you for sharing Biblical, and logical, truth.
Concerning abortion, I am surprised that the Democrats do not point out that the number of abortions will most likely decrease under Obamacare because many more people will have health care coverage. This is explained in a Washington Post article by T.R. Reid from March 14, 2010 which says “Universal health care tends to cut the abortion rate”. This article discusses the rate of abortions in various countries. Also, the abortion rate in Massachusetts decreased after health care coverage was expanded, according to an April 1, 2010 article in Factcheck.org called “The Abortion Issue”. In my opinion, Republicans, who want to repeal Obamacare, are effectively voting to keep the rate of abortions high, whether they know it or not.
Abortion rates plummet with free birth control
Published: Thursday, October 4, 2012 – 19:36 in Health & Medicine
Providing birth control to women at no cost substantially reduced unplanned pregnancies and cut abortion rates by 62 percent to 78 percent over the national rate, a new study shows. The research, by investigators at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, appears online Oct. 4 in Obstetrics & Gynecology.
Among a range of birth control methods offered in the study, most women chose long-acting methods like intrauterine devices (IUDs) or implants, which have lower failure rates than commonly used birth control pills. In the United States, IUDs and implants have high up-front costs that sometimes aren’t covered by health insurance, making these methods unaffordable for many women.
“The impact of providing no-cost birth control was far greater than we expected in terms of unintended pregnancies,” says lead author Jeff Peipert, MD, PhD, the Robert J. Terry Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology. “We think improving access to birth control, particularly IUDs and implants, coupled with education on the most effective methods has the potential to significantly decrease the number of unintended pregnancies and abortions in this country.”
Unintended pregnancies are a major problem in the United States. Each year, about 50 percent of all U.S. pregnancies are unplanned, far higher than in other developed countries. About half of these pregnancies result from women not using contraception and half from incorrect or irregular use.
The Contraceptive Choice Project enrolled 9,256 women and adolescents in the St. Louis area between 2007 and 2011. Participants were 14-45 years of age, at risk for unintended pregnancy, and willing to start a new contraceptive method.
Participants had their choice of birth control methods, ranging from long-acting forms like IUDs and implants to shorter-acting methods such as birth control pills, patches and rings.
The women were counseled about the different methods, including their effectiveness, risks and benefits. The extremely low failure rate (less than 1 percent) of IUDs and implants over that of shorter-acting forms (8 percent to 10 percent) was emphasized. In all, about 75 percent of women in the study chose IUDs or implants.
From 2008 to 2010, annual abortion rates among study participants ranged from 4.4 to 7.5 per 1,000 women. This is a substantial drop (62 percent to 78 percent) over the national rate of 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women in 2008, the latest year for which figures are available.
The lower abortion rates among CHOICE participants also is considerably less than the rates in St. Louis city and county, which ranged from 13.4 to 17 per 1,000 women, for the same years.
Among girls ages 15-19 who had access to free birth control provided in the study, the annual birth rate was 6.3 per 1,000, far below the U.S. rate of 34.3 per 1,000 for girls the same age.
While birth control pills are the most commonly used contraceptive in the United Sates, their effectiveness hinges on women remembering to take a pill every day and having easy access to refills.
In contrast, IUDs and implants are inserted by health-care providers and are effective for 5 to 10 years and 3 years, respectively. Despite their superior effectiveness over short-term methods, only a small percentage of U.S. women using contraception choose these methods. Many can’t afford the cost of IUDs and implants, which can cost more than $800 and may not be covered by insurance.
“Unintended pregnancy remains a major health problem in the United States, with higher proportions among teenagers and women with less education and lower economic status,” Peipert says. “The results of this study demonstrate that we can reduce the rate of unintended pregnancy and this is key to reducing abortions in this country.”
Family Values are an important part of every society that wishes to function !